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		<title>Microsoft (Semi-)Official Confirmation Of XBox Live Problems</title>
		<link>http://www.offthehill.org/articles/2009/02/20/microsoft-semi-official-confirmation-of-xbox-live-problems/</link>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Feb 2009 20:42:22 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>pardsbane</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[	Microsoft&#8217;s Major Nelson posted an explanation of the problems I (and may other people) have been experiencing with XBox Live and our corrupt Gamertags.

	I didn&#8217;t post about it when it happened, but MS finally contacted me back a week or so ago, and told me they couldn&#8217;t recover my gamertag. In compensation, they gave me [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>Microsoft&#8217;s Major Nelson <a href="http://majornelson.com/archive/2009/02/19/windows-live-id-s-and-gamertags.aspx">posted an explanation</a> of the problems I (and may other people) have been experiencing with XBox Live and our corrupt Gamertags.</p>

	<p>I didn&#8217;t post about it when it happened, but MS finally contacted me back a week or so ago, and told me they couldn&#8217;t recover my gamertag. In compensation, they gave me 18 months of XBox Live to use. Not great, but at least I&#8217;ve got some closure and a few months of comped time. It doesn&#8217;t make up for the four years of fees I paid to keep my gamertag active, but its something.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>Microsoft Calls Back, But No Fix Yet</title>
		<link>http://www.offthehill.org/articles/2009/02/03/microsoft-calls-back-but-no-fix-yet/</link>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Feb 2009 04:41:00 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>pardsbane</dc:creator>
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		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.offthehill.org/?p=136</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[	If you&#8217;ve been following the drama (and who hasn&#8217;t?), you&#8217;ll know I&#8217;ve been waiting with not-so-baited-breath for Microsoft tech support to get back to me about my Xbox Live account migration problem.

	Well, this evening I got a call from Derek, in the XBox Support department of Microsoft Corporate. He said the regular support guys had [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>If you&#8217;ve been <a href="http://www.offthehill.org/articles/tag/xbox-live/">following the drama</a> (and who hasn&#8217;t?), you&#8217;ll know I&#8217;ve been waiting with not-so-baited-breath for Microsoft tech support to get back to me about my Xbox Live account migration problem.</p>

	<p>Well, this evening I got a call from Derek, in the XBox Support department of Microsoft Corporate. He said the regular support guys had been trying to get a hold of me for the last few days. That was news to me, since my phone handn&#8217;t run and didn&#8217;t show any miss calls, but whatever, at least someone finally did call.</p>

	<p><strong>Unfortunately</strong><strong>, Derek didn&#8217;t really have any news, he just told me what I already knew, which is that I probably sometime in the distant past tried to migrate my account via xbox.com and the account got corrupted. He took down all the possible email addresses I might have used as a Live ID, and said someone would get back to me again soon.</p>

	<p>So, now I&#8217;m left waiting again. Derek did send me an email with his contact information, which I&#8217;ll use if I don&#8217;t hear anything by the end of the week.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>Another Reported XBox 360 vs. Windows Live ID issue</title>
		<link>http://www.offthehill.org/articles/2009/02/01/another-reported-xbox-360-vs-windows-live-id-issue/</link>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 01 Feb 2009 06:25:24 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>pardsbane</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[	I found another report of Gamertag issues due to trouble with Windows Live IDs, this one in an article titled &#8220;I Lost My Gamertag and Microsoft can&#8217;t find it&#8220;. The story there is a little convoluted and not exactly the same problem, but I&#8217;m pretty sure our two problems are related and if Microsoft could [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>I found another report of Gamertag issues due to trouble with Windows Live IDs, this one in an article titled &#8220;<a href="http://www.microsoft-watch.com/content/games_consumer/i_lost_my_gamertag_and_microsoft_cant_find_it.html" target="_blank">I Lost My Gamertag and Microsoft can&#8217;t find it</a>&#8220;. The story there is a little convoluted and not exactly the same problem, but I&#8217;m pretty sure our two problems are related and if Microsoft could fix one of them, it could fix both of them. (And <a href="http://www.destructoid.com/microsoft-thinks-you-are-disposable-118047.phtml" target="_blank">all</a> the <a href="http://www.offthehill.org/articles/2009/01/30/more-xbox-live-account-expiration-problems/" target="_blank">others</a> posted I&#8217;ve already written about).</p>

	<p>Again, I don&#8217;t know if it will help, but if you see this and have the same problem, post about it on <a href="http://getsatisfaction.com/microsoft/topics/cannot_migrate_my_original_xbox_live_account_to_xbox_360?from=new_topic&amp;utm_medium=topic_search&amp;utm_source=topic_search_microsoft" target="_blank">this page</a>Â (at getsatisfaction.com)</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>More XBox Live Account Expiration Problems</title>
		<link>http://www.offthehill.org/articles/2009/01/30/more-xbox-live-account-expiration-problems/</link>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Jan 2009 05:12:08 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>pardsbane</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[	I found more reports of people having the same trouble I&#8217;m having with their expired Live ID&#8217;s here, and here. It appears a Microsoft employee named M3 Sweatt commented 13 days ago asking the original poster to comment on his blog with a description of his problem, so maybe something can be done. I don&#8217;t [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>I found more reports of people having <a href="http://www.offthehill.org/articles/2009/01/14/cannot-migrate-live-to-an-xbox-360/" target="_blank">the same trouble I&#8217;m having </a>with their expired Live ID&#8217;s <a href="http://getsatisfaction.com/microsoft/topics/cannot_migrate_my_original_xbox_live_account_to_xbox_360" target="_blank">here</a>, and <a href="http://getsatisfaction.com/microsoft/topics/why_cant_i_change_the_windows_live_id_thats_linked_to_my_gamertag" target="_blank">here</a>. It appears a Microsoft employee named <em>M3 Sweatt</em> commented 13 days ago asking the original poster to comment on <a href="http://blogs.msdn.com/mthree/" target="_blank">his blog</a> with a description of his problem, so maybe something can be done. I don&#8217;t know if he has the power to do anything, but I&#8217;ll try and contact him too and see if I hear back.</p>

	<p>If you have the same problem, I urge you to comment on <a href="http://getsatisfaction.com/microsoft/topics/cannot_migrate_my_original_xbox_live_account_to_xbox_360?from=new_topic&amp;utm_medium=topic_search&amp;utm_source=topic_search_microsoft" target="_blank">this thread at GetSatisfaction.com</a>, maybe if enough people comment, Microsoft will finally do something about the problem.</p>

	<p>It is now day 6 and I still haven&#8217;t heard anything from the official MS channels. Its amazing that in this day when there are companies like Zappos.com that give their employees the authority to do whatever it takes to satisfy the customer, there are also companies like Microsoft that get away with such obvious disregard for theirs.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>Microsoft thinks you are disposable</title>
		<link>http://www.offthehill.org/articles/2009/01/29/microsoft-thinks-you-are-disposable/</link>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Jan 2009 20:30:40 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>pardsbane</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[	I found an article here covering some of the same issues I&#8217;ve been having with Microsoft&#8217;s XBox Live service.

	Its unbelievable how long these service problems have existed, but I guess MS has no financial incentive to rectify the problems.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>I found an article <a href="http://www.destructoid.com/microsoft-thinks-you-are-disposable-118047.phtml">here</a> covering some of the same issues I&#8217;ve been having with Microsoft&#8217;s XBox Live service.</p>

	<p>Its unbelievable how long these service problems have existed, but I guess MS has no financial incentive to rectify the problems.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>Hacking Microsoft XBox Support</title>
		<link>http://www.offthehill.org/articles/2009/01/28/hacking-microsoft-xbox-support/</link>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Jan 2009 01:39:17 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>pardsbane</dc:creator>
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		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.offthehill.org/?p=116</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[	While trying to find a solution to my Xbox live problem, I found some information online about getting through to escalated XBox live support. So far it hasn&#8217;t been very useful, and I haven&#8217;t tried the big-guns yet, but here is what I know:

	Tier 2 Support

	First, I found here that you can try calling &#8216;X-Box [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>While trying to find a solution to my <a href="http://www.offthehill.org/articles/2009/01/21/xbox-live-migration-saga-part-2/">Xbox live problem</a>, I found some information online about getting through to escalated XBox live support. So far it hasn&#8217;t been very useful, and I haven&#8217;t tried the big-guns yet, but here is what I know:</p>

	<p><strong>Tier 2 Support</strong></p>

	<p>First, I found <a href="http://consumerist.com/5007862/how-to-quickly-contact-intelligent-life-at-xbox-customer-service">here</a> that you can try calling &#8216;X-Box Escalated Support&#8217;. Their number is 866-506-3826. They have limited hours, between 6 am and 4 pm <span class="caps">PST</span>, which is a bit of a pain if you live on the east coast and have to do any amount of commuting. You&#8217;ll need a support reference number, so make sure you called Tier 1 support and got one.</p>

	<p>In my experience, when I call (within their hours of course) and give my case number, it goes straight to a busy signal. <strong>Not helpful, or friendly.</strong> I&#8217;ve tried in the morning, mid-day, and even the evening. I had to work from home one day to try it, and I never got through to a human.</p>

	<p>Another note about that number: When you say &#8220;operator&#8221; or &#8220;agent&#8221;, or give anything that doesn&#8217;t match the expected response to the computer&#8217;s question, the system responds with &#8220;Thanks for calling microsoft, goodbye&#8221;, <strong>then hangs up on you</strong>.</p>

	<p>So, if you give that number a try, give the computer exactly what it expects to hear, and good luck.</p>

	<p><strong>Tier 3</strong></p>

	<p>I found a reference online to Tier 3 support in Washington as well. Their number isÂ 1-888-236-0927, and you&#8217;ll need both a support reference number <em>and an extension</em> to get through the computer system.</p>

	<p>I haven&#8217;t had much luck with this number either, but then again, I don&#8217;t have an extension. I&#8217;ve been making progress trying to guess one though!Â Entering an invalid extension twice gets you a message saying &#8220;please hold for the next available agent&#8221;, and it puts you on hold. I thought, I was making progress, but after 25 minutes of listening to annoying music, I had to admit defeat and hang up. <strong>Ugh!</strong></p>

	<p>However, today I did some research online and found out a bit of a pattern for the extensions. They all start with 70 and have four digits. I found a few complete extensions online, but when I tried them, they were disconnected or the people at those numbers had moved to new jobs.</p>

	<p>Here are the extensions I know about, please comment on more if you have them:<br />
<ul>
	<li>7033 &#8211; Went straight to voice mail, so I left a polite message</li>
	<li>7034 &#8211; Went straight to voice mail, so I left a polite message</li>
	<li>7035 &#8211; Invalid extension</li>
	<li>7036 &#8211; Brad, no longer in this position</li>
	<li>7040 &#8211; Empty mailbox, can leave a message but no name associated with box</li>
	<li>7041 &#8211; Unrecognized</li>
	<li>7075 &#8211; Frank, moved to a more internal management position</li>
	<li>7087 &#8211; Unrecognized</li><br />
</ul><br />
<strong>The Big Guns</strong></p>

	<p>I haven&#8217;t gotten this far yet, but if you are really pissed, you can always try bringing in the big guns. I found contact information for a few Microsoft executives online. I haven&#8217;t tried contacting them yet, but if this is unresolved next week, I&#8217;ll give it a shot:<br />
<ul>
	<li>robbieb@microsoft.com- Robert (Robbie) Bach- <span class="caps">PRESIDENT</span>, <span class="caps">ENT</span> &amp; <span class="caps">DEVICES</span> DIV</li>
	<li>donm@microsoft.com &#8211; Don Mattrick- <span class="caps">SVP</span>, <span class="caps">INTERACTIVE</span> <span class="caps">ENT</span>. BUSINESS</li>
	<li>jabell@microsoft.com &#8211; Jeff Bell &#8211; <span class="caps">CVP</span> <span class="caps">GLOBAL</span> <span class="caps">MKT</span> <span class="caps">INTERACTIVE</span> ENT</li><br />
</ul><br />
<strong>Other Ideas</strong></p>

	<p>I&#8217;m out of ideas, so if you are reading this and have a suggestion, please let me know!</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>XBox Live Migration Saga, Part 2</title>
		<link>http://www.offthehill.org/articles/2009/01/21/xbox-live-migration-saga-part-2/</link>
		<comments>http://www.offthehill.org/articles/2009/01/21/xbox-live-migration-saga-part-2/#comments</comments>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Jan 2009 00:57:33 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>pardsbane</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[	Last week I wrote about my experience trying to fix my broken XBox Live account.

	Today I got a call back from a support supervisor today at 6:00 but I missed the call, he asked to call back 800-4MY-XBOX. If you call, you must remember to say &#8220;agent&#8221;, at the initial menu so you can skip [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>Last week I <a href="http://www.offthehill.org/articles/2009/01/14/cannot-migrate-live-to-an-xbox-360/">wrote</a> about my experience trying to <a href="http://www.offthehill.org/articles/2009/01/14/cannot-migrate-live-to-an-xbox-360/">fix my broken XBox Live account</a>.</p>

	<p>Today I got a call back from a support supervisor today at 6:00 but I missed the call, he asked to call back 800-4MY-<span class="caps">XBOX</span>. If you call, you must remember to say &#8220;agent&#8221;, at the initial menu so you can skip through most of the annoying computerized questions.</p>

	<p>An agent at the basic support verified my billing information and transferred me to an XBox Supervisor named <em>Jackie</em>, she told me escalated support is doing research on my account and that I should expect a call back in 2-5 business days, possibly longer. When I asked if I could call them directly she <em>laughed</em> and said &#8220;They are an offline support team.&#8221; Yeah, right.</p>

	<p>So now I&#8217;ll hold my breath for another call back.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>Windows Live ID expiration corrupts XBox Live Gamertags</title>
		<link>http://www.offthehill.org/articles/2009/01/16/windows-live-id-expiration-corrupts-xbox-live-gamertags/</link>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 17 Jan 2009 01:08:41 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>pardsbane</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[	While waiting for XBox support to call me back, I looked into what other people have been saying online about my problem.

	First, I found an article that claims Microsoft is refusing to fix a broken live account. The original forum post that triggered that article is here. Apparently, Windows Live ID&#8217;s can expire, and once [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>While <a href="http://www.offthehill.org/articles/2009/01/14/cannot-migrate-live-to-an-xbox-360/">waiting for XBox support to call me back</a>, I looked into what other people have been saying online about my problem.</p>

	<p>First, I found an article that claims <a href="http://nextgn.com/2009/01/03/microsoft-refuses-to-fix-broken-xbox-live-account/">Microsoft is refusing to fix a broken live account</a>. The original forum post that triggered that article is <a href="http://www.quartertothree.com/game-talk/showthread.php?t=49775">here</a>. Apparently, Windows Live ID&#8217;s can expire, and once they expire, they can&#8217;t be recovered. </p>

	<p><strong>Apparently, if they&#8217;ve expired, the account information for your gamertag can&#8217;t be modified any more!</strong> <em>How F-ing stupid is that?</em></p>

	<p>Other people (<br />
<a href="http://www.hardforum.com/showthread.php?t=1362047">one</a>, <a href="http://www.avforums.com/forums/xbox-360/901444-please-help-im-my-wits-end-gamertag-recovery.html">two</a>, <a href="http://msnemailchange.blogspot.com/2007/02/xbox-live-kills-off-accounts-after-60.html">three</a>) all seem to be having the same problem too!</p>

	<p>My optimism on having this issue resolved is dwindling.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>Cannot Migrate Live to an Xbox 360</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Jan 2009 00:34:37 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>pardsbane</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[	I bought an original Xbox probably about 8 years ago, and even though I haven&#8217;t been playing much in the last four years, I&#8217;ve been keeping my Live account active, just to hang on to my gamertag. Pretty stupid and vain I guess, but what the hell.

	A few weeks ago when I bought my XBox [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>I bought an original Xbox probably about 8 years ago, and even though I haven&#8217;t been playing much in the last four years, I&#8217;ve been keeping my Live account active, just to hang on to my gamertag. Pretty stupid and vain I guess, but what the hell.</p>

	<p>A few weeks ago when I bought my XBox 360 so I could play online with my co-workers, I expected I&#8217;d be able to migrate my account without much trouble. I could not have been any more wrong.</p>

	<p>When I enter my gamertag, I&#8217;m prompted for my Windows Live ID, but as far as I can remember I&#8217;ve never associated my gamertag with a Live ID. Now, I do <em>HAVE</em> a live ID (actually, it was a Microsoft Passport ID), but I can&#8217;t remember ever connecting it to Windows Live.</p>

	<p>No problem I figure, I&#8217;ll just call XBox Live support, validate my account information with them, and they&#8217;ll fix it on the back end.</p>

	<p><strong>And thus, my troubles begin&#8230;.</strong></p>

	<p>First, I called the regular support line. <em>Three times.</em> Each of the first three times, they walked me through their &#8216;Migration Trouble&#8217; script, and when they reached the end and my problem wasn&#8217;t solved, they made up lame excuses and got me off the phone as soon as possible, leaving me with &#8216;homework&#8217; to try, and asking me to call back if it didn&#8217;t work. Generally the homework involved creating a new Live ID to try, which obviously wouldn&#8217;t make a difference.</p>

	<p>The problem is the support representatives at XBox Live are trained to listen to keywords without thinking about the context, so they are <em>too stupid</em> to understand that when an error message says you are entering the <em>WRONG</em> Live ID, obviously creating a <em>NEW</em> Live ID isn&#8217;t going to help.</p>

	<p>Finally, I called back for the 4th time that night, and spoke with <em>Jim</em></p>

	<p>Even though I explained to him I had already done the script 3 times, he wasn&#8217;t capable of realizing the script wasn&#8217;t going to help, so we went through it again. He made me create <strong><span class="caps">YET</span> ANOTHER</strong> Windows Live ID, this time with a hotmail account because &#8220;We do everything with the Xbox on Hotmail, you need to have a hotmail account to use Xbox Live&#8221;. I knew that was utter crap, but what can you do? </p>

	<p><strong>When I started this process, I had one Windows Live ID. <span class="caps">NOW</span> I <span class="caps">HAVE</span> <span class="caps">FOUR</span>, with <span class="caps">NOTHING</span> TO <span class="caps">SHOW</span> <span class="caps">FOR</span> IT.</strong></p>

	<p>Jim even tried to convince me that there might be something wrong with my 360, and that I should borrow a friends and try and recover the account there. I explained there was absolutely no way the hardware or software on a brand new XBox could be broken. I told him I was not going to try a friends XBox, and that I needed to talk to a supervisor.</p>

	<p>Even then he still tried to direct me &#8216;back on script&#8217;, at which point I pretty much lost it and wigged out on him. After much venting of frustration, he finally escalated me to <em>Mel</em>, in the &#8220;Xbox Live Escalation Team&#8221;.</p>

	<p>She clearly seemed able to understand the problem, but didn&#8217;t seem to have enough control to actually fix the problem. She said she would try to recover the gamertag on her end, and if she was prompted for Credit Card info, she would do the migration there. If she was prompted for a Windows Live ID, she would escalate my call further.</p>

	<p>She went on hold for a few minutes and then came back and said she was getting a prompt for a Windows Live ID as well (<em>No, really? What a surprise!</em>). This told her the Live system was treating my account as an Xbox 360 account, not an original Xbox account. Because of this, she would not be able to do anything and my request would have to be escalated.</p>

	<p>She gave me a reference number, and told me someone would contact me at my phone number in the next 5-10 business days. </p>

	<p>I hold out little hope of that.</p>

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